S10 subframe swap I've come to terms w/ what I'm about to do, and I'm ok w/ that. I have a 50 studebaker with an S-10 frame, it was actually pretty easy. User Info. The S10 regular cab 2 wheel drive, long bed ( about 118) will be just right. SHARE POST #4. Really by the time all is said and done a MII will save you a lot of time and headaches, but personal preference S10 frame swap into a 49 Chevy truck part 2 The subframe and unibody arrangment is pretty well conceived 1999 Safari AWD, 1995 Astro 5-speed, 1989 Astro engine swap project Save Share 1948 - 1956 F1, F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks - Best S-10 frame swap - Wanting to put an S-10 frame under my 1953 f-100. As for wheel base, you can splice the S10 frame to correct wheel base. I have seen a lot of subframe swaps over the years and have really only seen one that impressed me. Goals: • Air Second, the S-10 uses a full frame, not a subframe. It's 90's tech just as subframe swaps were 80's Tech. I tore the fenders up when I would turn the wheel. 00 – $ 740. Does anyone know what year or years work best? Thanks! What Are The Top V8 into S10/Blazer Engine Swap-in-a-Box Kits? The best-selling V8 S10 swap kit from Transdapt fits the 1955-1978 small block Chevy into a 2WD chassis. 2-59 55-59 frame swap The 1947 - 1959 Chevrolet & GMC Pickups Message Board I am thinking of doing a frame swap with my 1941 Chevy Coupe. 00-Add to cart; Innovative HD Anti Roll Bar $ 475. For your truck, the G body clip would be my choice, although the S-10 clip works out well too. Note: The 2" Body Drop kit requires raising chassis swap. I believe a long S-10 is a few inches too long, but shortening a frame is not a difficult or expensive task. 41 Coup is 116 in. I did get rid of the old rear shocks, installed an S10 rear end and new shocks. And the S-10 is 55". Centerline - Thanks for the information. I know I could use a Mustang sub. You might be thinking of a link in the suspension section where a builder is putting an S-10 frame under a 'burb. All of the upgrades to the stock frame will take less time that a frame swap plus I do not think a S-10 is the right size for a F-1. I might sub-frame it too. The benefit of this is typically fuel injection, overdrive transmission, better fuel economy and most importantly horsepower. Sam The American being even smaller of a car I'd look at an S10 clip or frame swap under it. Not much different than your idea. '91 S10 New blue paint, V8 swap W/nv3500. I have a 2000 2. TerranceP SOLD I own a 1974 Chevy Nova Coupe with manual steering and manual brakes with drums in the front and would like to swap the entire subframe out with one with power steering and brakes with rotors in the front. Post: S-10 frame under nova? (Topic#215307) 70BelAirHT Contributor Posts: 652 Loc: Qc, next to Maine Border Reg: 06-09-03. I'm in the same boat. your Ford has a 114 inch wheelbase. I had to shorten it about 6", but as you can see the wheels fit nice. Might be Frame swap Frame swap questions come up frequently. Definitive S-10 Frame Swap Vehicle List. 000 miles on its 4. The AWD astros have torsion bars suspensions, while 2wd have front coils. 5" short so, I will be adding 2. Frame swap and engine swap. Subframe Spacer for S-chassis K-Swap Kit. Quick view. #shoeboxford #dadmods #clipswap In this episode of Dad Mods we show you how we completed a S10 front clip swap on a 1950 Ford Custom sedan. 1982-2003 GM S10/S15. mlagusis, Oct 26, 2011. Joined: Jan 13, 2025 Don’t cut up the OEM frame to install a new sub frame . 00-Select options; Gbody/S10/Camaro They say it is easier to drop the subframe. 00-Add to cart; Strange 1. wheelbase. I don't think they do - I mean from the front end sheet metal to suspension parts, they're the same as a regular 'ol S-10, you know? You can use the rear end out of the s10. Do a google search on S-10 and you will get some of the answers you are looking for. Our spacers lower the front subframe just enough to clear the oil pan flange $50. 125″ Alum Master Cylinder $ 100. It will not work with out some extensive mods. However, I think the suspension is where I would run into problems. Tinman 2 Kustoms covers the whole fabrication There are enough options for parts that will work under a Model A, I'm a huge advocate for S10 frame swaps in the right applications but this is one case where you really shouldn't use it. :thumbup: Tinbender, please do a post on the S-10 hub swap. Front Suspension A-Arms Front End Kit Full-frame cars don’t have the stiffness issues that subframe cars do thanks to the full-frame chassis. With the frame, came the tilt steering column, power brake booster, wiring harness, fuel tank, all pedals, and seat, if you choose to use it, and a rear end out of a 4 wheel S10 chassis with 2in dropped spindles and 1in springs in front 3in adjustable pin blocks in back manual steering box 355 chevy with Dart heads and edelbrock intake and carb 350 turbo trans alan grove alt and a/c comp. All Activity; Home ; The forums of P15-D24. I am determined to put a 1960 Rambler American station wagon on an S-10 frame. Its a little narrower. A friend of mine put a 51 Chevy pickup on an extended cab S10 frame fairly easily. 2L vin 5 to a LM4 5. SHARE POST #26. The sub frame mounts on the firewall are barely attached to the floors anymore. 350 laying running boards. I'm thinking the S-10 clip is still going to be too wide for a Mustang II, these are small cars, like a Pinto or Vega. 283 v8 and 4 speed manual. The wagon is a unibody with a completely shot floor. It looks good, but has anybody seen this or heard of this being 1 - The S14 subframe is wider than the S13 subframe so will need offset bushes to get it on (I'm referring to just the subframe) 2 - The S14 lower arm is also wider than the S13 item, plus the ball joint sits at a different angle to the S13 one. I just purchased a 55 chevy short box and am building a street rod from scratch. 8M posts 198K members Since 2001 S10forum is the community to discuss the S-Series, Chevrolet Colorado I also have a later model subframe that is currently attached to the original frame, not well though, the original surgeon installed it crooked. many times the next guy to look They cut up the cross member and started to modify the floor and trans tunnel to get the 460/C-6 in there. It's got a standard offset 15x7 wheel with a 205 series tire Clark 1. I originally chose Dirty Dingo slide brackets & early 2. I can currently get a complete late model S10 single cab long bed frame for $150, and at that price it’s worth picking up and sitting on until I’m ready for it. i want to put it under my 1954 bel air 2 door post. The single most impactful thing you can do to your vintage or classic framed hot rod: a front sub-frame swap. There are still alot of debates about which way is easier. 67-72chevytrucks. well since Dan likes em low (prolly why we get along so well ) i told him the only good way to go about it was to swap the F'ed up stock frame for an S10 unit. com ( ( look @ HUSSEY = "Albert Build" ) ) LS to LT Swap New FRONT SUSPENSION A-Arms 1982-2003 GM S10/S15. php?title=S-10_frame_swaps&oldid=3488058" The S-10 swap does put the tires under the fenders some but this can be a good thing. I am up in the air weather to do a frame swap or to put a clip in it. The newer Subframe will be out of a 1978 Z28 LS and before I spend the money buying it I want to be sure that everything will bolt up and Yes it could. I would like to swap my 1st gen 2wd frame with a 2nd gen 2wd frame and keep the 1st gen body and motor. I think the Cadillac Seville (K-body) front subframes from 75-79 will also fit but they If you are getting swap parts of an AWD Bravada or S10 the shaft will be the correct length. Jump to Latest 919 views 6 replies I would think that this (S10 frame) would be a lot of work with little or no gain. 8M posts 198K members Since 2001 S10forum is the community to discuss the S-Series, Chevrolet Colorado and GMC Canyon. The Camaro clip is 60". Throughout this series I will A 74 sub frame is narrower then the 76. A Model A has a 103. 2" wheel spacers will be needed at the front wheels on the 2wd S10 and the most '83-'01 S-10 was 54. I just picked up this 1950 Chevy 3100 5 window for a steal! Plans are to put an s-10 frame under it, bag with a LRD 6link. 00-Add to cart; S10 Under Axle Pro Mod Anti Roll Billet Arms $ 449. Luckily for us we have found that a regular cab long bed chevy S10 truck from 1982-1998 has a 1950 GMC/s10 frame swap (part 1) First of all, you get everything you need for this do it yourself swap with the S-10 truck you buy at the local junkyard. The sub-frame is good heavy steel so it can be grafted to other chassis that 41 FORD on an s-10 frame Hello 41ford1 and all, I have a magazine article that covers a lot of what we ( I have a 41 also) need to know. Any ideas what frames may work for this swap, I was thinking maybee an s10 but dont know. 1 Chevrolet Short Bed and cannot find a 118" frame? Don't be discouraged. 3L, go small block, or go LS1. It looks like the 2wd uses a different coil based My good friend Dan had run into clearance issues with his steering on his bagged '51 Shoebox Ford. Retrieved from "https://www. Once owned an Astro Van was always told that the front subframe was actually the same as a s10'swould using part of the rear portion of an Astro chassis solve the kickup problem Ok, I read the initial post as a complete frame swap, so I retract my previous statement. The other option is to use a subframe from a donor, such as a Camaro. A 2 Door S-10 blazer has a 100. Front of 41' with s10 swap Here are some shots of the front of the 41' and one of the engine compartment. I found a 56' F100 for sale and went to look at it. Long Bed S10 chassis. 5" wheelbase, and a 4 door S-10 blazer has a 107" wheelbase. Now looking back i might of kept the stock chassis Im new to the classic car/truck game but one thing is for sure everybody has a right to their own For this 1950 3100 5 window I purchased a 2004 S10 standard cab pickup 118inch wheel base with only 83. Extended-cab S10 chassis. There is quite a bit involved, but,so is Short Beds (116" W. The S10 is also approximately 4"-5" narrower as well. I can send a copy of the pages with info if anyone is interested. Third, you also need to measure the frame rail spacing if you plan to weld it to the back of the Olds frame. Joined: Mar 13, 2006 Guys, I don't get it - what the hell do you call a Camaro with a sub frame it bolts to the "UNI-BODY" humm Use some square tubing to tie the rear all the way up front. 00-Select options; 1982-05 S10/Blazer Lightweight Adjustable Steering Column $ 229. It is a great swap. brackets 4. The front clip shouldn't be a hateful swap. Profile As you might guess, Dobbertin took on the Type IV approach with his mid-engine transaxle S-10 truck using an incredibly strong Mendeola SDR5 five-speed transaxle assembly. Trying to stick an S-10 body on a K5 frame is a lot of fabricating work. Nightfire - Nope not me but sounds like a good idea. I have been told that the stude frame is to narrow for a chevy clip like I had first planned. ; the K5 is a full-size frame, you WILL run into a TON OF Then raise it. Profile Page. I think I have a good frame and I want to lower it as much as I can without sacrificing ride/handling. I have no personal experience with this swap. This video provides a complete rundown on a Sub-frame (front clip) swap or graft. If I did upgrade to s10 frame swap, I’d need to maintain the ground clearance stance for country road drivability where I live. com It covers the differences between the years & how to handle them in the swap, along with all of the parts needed for the swap, including radiator, mounts, etc for different engines. My 48 had a Camaro sub before the S-10 frame. I will start off with small block parts, as these are by far the most popular S10 front end is a narrowed 79-88 A/'G' body frame. I'm going to check out these forums as I go also. The Mustang II was a whole lot easier than the S-10 frame swap would have been on the pickup and I love the way it rides and handles. Long Beds (125" W. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. The biggest PITA, as with all S10 front swaps, is the awkward steering box location in relation to the core support, etc. 3L swapped S10. Joined: Jun 5, 2008 Posts: 201. On a older vehicle or street rod / hot rod it is almost always better, more cost effective and less work to use the original frame. Now, if the suspension swap is not gonna work, I am thinking a 4x4 frame and then the straight axle conversion and stronger axles. This swap is supposed to narrow the track width about 1 inch per side. He is about to do a 10 second S10 that hit the wall with of course an S10 . B. They are thin sheet metal of the top hat design and thought to weld thick S10 frame to with out lots of experience welding deathrowdave, Feb 5 Normally the S10- 2 wheel drive rear is too narrow and must use the S10- 4 wheel drive rear or one from a Camaro, etc. John/JDP, has someone looking for a '53-'54 Starliner body. Here's the Swapping a s10 chassis under a 1949 Chevrolet 3100 pickup using Russ D Parts cab mounts. Joined: Apr 28, 2006 Posts: 3,588. S-10 Forums. There's alot of info & a detailed swap guide at the 67-72 chevy truck forum. I have so many products to launch, this is truly the beginning. My question; has anyone out there used an S10 sub and mated Ford power to it? I have a sweet 302/C4 out of my 68 Stang that was stolen (out of a body shop) and really want to bring it back to life. If perhaps I could offer some help,, look on my project journal start last page then backwards. anyone ever done a s10 frame or subframe under a a 54 bel air???? The subframe’s potential is actually held back by the Nova’s relatively cramped inner fender profile, as the exact same subframe mounted under a ’69 Camaro can easily swing a 10-inch-wide The S-10 frame does work under the AD trucks fairly well and so many AD trucks have frames that are either rusted out, damaged by hauling way more then they were ever intended to haul or hacked up so bad years ago for engine swaps (I have one cab off a frame like that out in my barn) but I still can't see pulling a good undamaged frame out from under one of In today's video I show you part one of my 1947 Chevy pickup project. Terrance . com/wiki/index. That would be plenty for the A-D trucks that are already subed-or other similar vehicles. 3 Vortex v6 with a 4 speed auto that I plan on keeping it runs sweet everything works ,The EZ Alright- I know. Then I am hoping V8 in the far future. The combination of the way the fenders taper to the front on the inside and S-10 frame swap info / builds ( mostly old Chevy / GMC " AD " trucks , onto S-10 frames) : check here ; Wamego: 1949 GMC 150 - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network Wamego: 1949 GMC 150 Projects and Builds. 5" wheelbase as stock. They have the same exact wheelbase then got a disc brake rear end. Add T-tops and an F-body and it will have chassis flex like a Twizzler under heavy cornering, engine torque 1995-05 S10 Gas Lid Charge Panel $ 85. I do have one on my to do list. SHARE POST #10. His current 62 was an original straight 6 with manual gearbox. The subframe (or crossmember) is quite large, there are a number of parts to remove and I'm wor S10 Swap frame conversion kit The 1947 - 1959 Chevrolet & GMC Pickups Message Board Register or Log In To remove 100 + for an S=10 4x4 rear axle as the two wheel drive axle is usually too narrow unless you want wide wheels and wheel tubs. I ended up with a very smooth riding car, and it handles great. The second most popular kit is designed to fit the Chevy LS I currently run original frame and suspension with 54 chev car front drums and 79 Pontiac car rear end. I went and got a regular cab, long box frame. It's not traditional to subframe a 50 Shoebox w/ a S10 subframe. This kit changed the game. Jump to Latest Brand new to the site and looking for info about S-10 frames and lowering as well as narrowing. soon to be throwin sparks on a street near you 98 K1500 Z71 Current DD, 2" lift with 18" KMC Rockstars on 33" Procomp Extreme Alterains Save Share Nothing modern has frames, except trucks. 04-23-09 05:05 AM - Post# 1683076 The third gen front sub-frame is often swaped into other cars. . Watch a Code 504 1947-54 Chevrolet Im in the process of a s10 swap so looking forward to you updating this. It currently has been stripped of all the steering parts and all the suspension getting it ready to weld a 3" pipe spacer lift. just added a shim to set the Building a 1947 - 1955. 00. after i made a couple phone calls i located This video goes out to my good friend Clint @ClintsStreetMachines and his plans for that left over S10 Chassis that he has from his main MONSTER S10 Build th The wheelbase on the S10 is 2. You can get your track back to 58" by using rims that are set back an inch. it was poorly subframed with a 73 Camaro subframe and sat a mile in the air. I will change the game again. Everything is the same save The only way to really FIX it would be to pull the motor back out, notch the sub There is a place for swapping an S-10 frame and that is when you don't have a decent correct size original frame to start with. Keep the stock 4. In summary it looks like if I were to swap s10 4wd into a 2wd I would need: S10 axle S10 transmission S10 transfer case AWD Astro subframe All of these are not hard to find for less than $1000 at junkyards and craigslist. rustynewyorker, Dec 13, 2011. Thanks Pat That year S-10 has a 100. 3 - You need to use the S13 chamber arm when fitting the S14 subframe. The springs ended up being the same width as the stock spring perches on the s10 rear end. A 49 ford car with an S10,A 58 chevy truck with a Nova and 48 ford F-1 with a 80 camaro. 2nd Gen Forums. ) uses the 123" W. Add to Cart. I subframed my truck in 1980 and it drove Most guys go with a MII or 2nd gen Camaro/Trans Am subframe as these are Astro Vans use a front subframe with welded main rails. A 68, 69, 71, and a 72 in the works!!!! Omega, Ventura/Phoenix, or Apollo/Skylark) subframes are the only ones that will be a direct bolt-on swap without any fab work. For the front I used a 2" spacer on each side. That got it . A look at an S10 frame set up to mount a 1953 Chevrolet truck. Parts for steering and suspension are getting harder to find so I thought I would Definitive S-10 Frame Swap Vehicle List. There is a lot of work to modifying a frame to fit a another type of vehicle and get it to fit right and work correctly. But then saw that '50 on an S-10 frame for sale on Craigslist and wondered if that would be easier, better, etc. My mind never sets idle, Im always creating, envisioning or researching. I used a S-10 front clip for my 47 delivery, it is tight issues with the sbc,what exhaust to fit,mounting radiator, fuel pump clearance ,inner fenders, mounting front fenders, steering issues, cutting front frame of donor just past steering to fit(it is tight). rusty1, Sep 19, 2011. Got a 4x4 rear Chevy S10 Pickup with the extended cab has a 122" wheelbase, same as your Special. 8. I do not know of any C/K bodies on S10 frames. When I bought it the cab/box was strapped to a shortend chassis. I've heard about it for years but have never gotten the bearing and caliper numbers. My stock track was 60". Now i don't have that problem. 5 inch wheel base plus is usually four wheel drive or at least I have never seen a two wheel drive S-10 Blazer here locally. First kit went out Jan 2019 and the response and customers have been amazing. INTRODUCTION: S-CHASSIS REAR SUBFRAME COMPARISON The introduction of the S13 generation S-chassis featured many technical advances over the previous S12 chassis and one of them was the I have to admit, I thought this job would be quite difficult. I know of Studebakers, like '50 and '51 Starlights, on S10 frames. You can look in his album for the 58 truck,he has some good pics of the job he did. Either pull your horns in and use a wheel that will fit or get out the blue-tip wrench and change front clips. I figured with the cross member all cut up like that, this would be the perfect candidate for a sub frame swap. ) uses the 118" W. It's a pretty detailed guide from start to finish. 5" As far as narrowing the track of the Camaro clip, I wouldn't do it, knowing what I do about suspension geometry. This is a complete rundown on a Subframe swap, graft, front clip, IFS, The single most impactful thing you can do to your hotrod a front subframe swap This is a complete rundown on a S10 front end swap? Discussion in 'Off Topic Hot Rods & Customs' started by Bill843, Feb 3, 2025. S-10 Forum. I did 1948 - 1956 F1, F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks - S-10 subframe? - Hey everybody, I'm new to this forum but not to Ford trucks. Keep in mind that the C/K body, like your Starliner, has a 120. This is a sub frame I got when I bought the V8 Astro donor van for the Ole Yellar V8 swap. I did a ton of research about the swap before hand. You can always extend or reduce an S10 frame to work with ou To those considering to notch the sub-frame or not to notch the sub-frame. Available in 2WD or 4WD kit versions, and Stock Height or 2" Body Drop kits. If you are getting the front shaft off an AWD Astro/Safari then it will need to be shortened as I did. To remedy this, we got a freebie Chevy S10 donor and stabb Code 504 Is a Manufacturer of USA Made Bolt-On S-10 Chassis Conversion Swap Kits & Street Rod Parts They offer a bolt-on kit for a 47-54 Chevy PU, and seem pretty price competitive and judging by the pictures, a lot more quality. 1988 s10 blazer frame with 4 wheel disc brakes. It will never look right. crankshaftcoalition. Com, Mopar cars and trucks from mid 1930s to late 1950s ; Mopar Flathead Truck Forum ; S10 to Pilothouse bolt on frame swap kit Visit S10 Swap by Panza FB group if you haven't already. 5 inch wheelbase. Whats up guys. He has taken the whole front clip from an S-10 and added it to the 56 frame. Victor started out with a pretty clean C10, but after taking into account his goals and overall budget, we decided the best option was to get rid of the undesirable 62 and earlier frame in favor of a conveniently available 63. This allows a much wider array and lower cost of parts going forward. I used subframe connectors and moved my leaf springs in about 2in in the front and made some offset 1/2 in spacers for the rear hangers. Join to so my buddy Dan Turner picked himself up a decent 51 Chevy project truck the other day. 55. I had to do the reverse on my 52 Ford pick up. But don't want to pay the money. and installed a 11" disk brake kit. This is not a DIY In addition to a chassis swap some people take it one step further and swap in the newer truck motor and transmission. S10 / Sonoma. 8L mount for my swap because of That’s why I’m wondering if it would be worth it for a full swap. Send Private Topic View Profile. 5" to the WB of the S10. Picked up this longbed s10 for the swap. The front drive axle is the same as the S10, the transfer case is the same used in the Syclones, and the wheels on both 2wd and AWD are of the full size pickup/suburban From Code 504, a manufacturer of high-quality bolt-on S-10 frame swap kits: This is a quick overview on extending or reducing (lengthening or shortening) a Chevy S10 truck frame. To start this off, there are basically three options I see as easily attainable for an S10 frame swap. can't believe everyone thinks the S-10 chassis is the magic frame swap. 10 rear end which is the stock 2wd one S10 tilt column 91 chevy silverado seat 15x7 front wheels with 195/65/15 tires Yes, Matt167's idea makes much more sense, if I was to do this using S-10 parts it would be just the S-10 front suspension clip from the firewall forward and build the rest out of 2x3 tubing. Our S-chassis subframe spacers are designed to work with our engine mounts and trans mounts and our high capacity oil pan. I swapped the frame to an S-10 with a 55" track, and had to swap the rear to a 4X4 S-10 rear with a 59" track. Here's John's truck. I used a 2000 Chevy s10 frame under my 1947 cab and bed. I do NOT want a subframe, I’ve never liked those setups. The little information I have gathered the only real problem I will encounter is having to make front bumper brackets. ticqozsnvisxokvpftfddxnkueoandnrtxabutsvqansehkwjnxvriizksiepckwishtdropblqnykv
S10 subframe swap I've come to terms w/ what I'm about to do, and I'm ok w/ that. I have a 50 studebaker with an S-10 frame, it was actually pretty easy. User Info. The S10 regular cab 2 wheel drive, long bed ( about 118) will be just right. SHARE POST #4. Really by the time all is said and done a MII will save you a lot of time and headaches, but personal preference S10 frame swap into a 49 Chevy truck part 2 The subframe and unibody arrangment is pretty well conceived 1999 Safari AWD, 1995 Astro 5-speed, 1989 Astro engine swap project Save Share 1948 - 1956 F1, F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks - Best S-10 frame swap - Wanting to put an S-10 frame under my 1953 f-100. As for wheel base, you can splice the S10 frame to correct wheel base. I have seen a lot of subframe swaps over the years and have really only seen one that impressed me. Goals: • Air Second, the S-10 uses a full frame, not a subframe. It's 90's tech just as subframe swaps were 80's Tech. I tore the fenders up when I would turn the wheel. 00 – $ 740. Does anyone know what year or years work best? Thanks! What Are The Top V8 into S10/Blazer Engine Swap-in-a-Box Kits? The best-selling V8 S10 swap kit from Transdapt fits the 1955-1978 small block Chevy into a 2WD chassis. 2-59 55-59 frame swap The 1947 - 1959 Chevrolet & GMC Pickups Message Board I am thinking of doing a frame swap with my 1941 Chevy Coupe. 00-Add to cart; Innovative HD Anti Roll Bar $ 475. For your truck, the G body clip would be my choice, although the S-10 clip works out well too. Note: The 2" Body Drop kit requires raising chassis swap. I believe a long S-10 is a few inches too long, but shortening a frame is not a difficult or expensive task. 41 Coup is 116 in. I did get rid of the old rear shocks, installed an S10 rear end and new shocks. And the S-10 is 55". Centerline - Thanks for the information. I know I could use a Mustang sub. You might be thinking of a link in the suspension section where a builder is putting an S-10 frame under a 'burb. All of the upgrades to the stock frame will take less time that a frame swap plus I do not think a S-10 is the right size for a F-1. I might sub-frame it too. The benefit of this is typically fuel injection, overdrive transmission, better fuel economy and most importantly horsepower. Sam The American being even smaller of a car I'd look at an S10 clip or frame swap under it. Not much different than your idea. '91 S10 New blue paint, V8 swap W/nv3500. I have a 2000 2. TerranceP SOLD I own a 1974 Chevy Nova Coupe with manual steering and manual brakes with drums in the front and would like to swap the entire subframe out with one with power steering and brakes with rotors in the front. Post: S-10 frame under nova? (Topic#215307) 70BelAirHT Contributor Posts: 652 Loc: Qc, next to Maine Border Reg: 06-09-03. I'm in the same boat. your Ford has a 114 inch wheelbase. I had to shorten it about 6", but as you can see the wheels fit nice. Might be Frame swap Frame swap questions come up frequently. Definitive S-10 Frame Swap Vehicle List. 000 miles on its 4. The AWD astros have torsion bars suspensions, while 2wd have front coils. 5" short so, I will be adding 2. Frame swap and engine swap. Subframe Spacer for S-chassis K-Swap Kit. Quick view. #shoeboxford #dadmods #clipswap In this episode of Dad Mods we show you how we completed a S10 front clip swap on a 1950 Ford Custom sedan. 1982-2003 GM S10/S15. mlagusis, Oct 26, 2011. Joined: Jan 13, 2025 Don’t cut up the OEM frame to install a new sub frame . 00-Select options; Gbody/S10/Camaro They say it is easier to drop the subframe. 00-Add to cart; Strange 1. wheelbase. I don't think they do - I mean from the front end sheet metal to suspension parts, they're the same as a regular 'ol S-10, you know? You can use the rear end out of the s10. Do a google search on S-10 and you will get some of the answers you are looking for. Our spacers lower the front subframe just enough to clear the oil pan flange $50. 125″ Alum Master Cylinder $ 100. It will not work with out some extensive mods. However, I think the suspension is where I would run into problems. Tinman 2 Kustoms covers the whole fabrication There are enough options for parts that will work under a Model A, I'm a huge advocate for S10 frame swaps in the right applications but this is one case where you really shouldn't use it. :thumbup: Tinbender, please do a post on the S-10 hub swap. Front Suspension A-Arms Front End Kit Full-frame cars don’t have the stiffness issues that subframe cars do thanks to the full-frame chassis. With the frame, came the tilt steering column, power brake booster, wiring harness, fuel tank, all pedals, and seat, if you choose to use it, and a rear end out of a 4 wheel S10 chassis with 2in dropped spindles and 1in springs in front 3in adjustable pin blocks in back manual steering box 355 chevy with Dart heads and edelbrock intake and carb 350 turbo trans alan grove alt and a/c comp. All Activity; Home ; The forums of P15-D24. I am determined to put a 1960 Rambler American station wagon on an S-10 frame. Its a little narrower. A friend of mine put a 51 Chevy pickup on an extended cab S10 frame fairly easily. 2L vin 5 to a LM4 5. SHARE POST #26. The sub frame mounts on the firewall are barely attached to the floors anymore. 350 laying running boards. I'm thinking the S-10 clip is still going to be too wide for a Mustang II, these are small cars, like a Pinto or Vega. 283 v8 and 4 speed manual. The wagon is a unibody with a completely shot floor. It looks good, but has anybody seen this or heard of this being 1 - The S14 subframe is wider than the S13 subframe so will need offset bushes to get it on (I'm referring to just the subframe) 2 - The S14 lower arm is also wider than the S13 item, plus the ball joint sits at a different angle to the S13 one. I just purchased a 55 chevy short box and am building a street rod from scratch. 8M posts 198K members Since 2001 S10forum is the community to discuss the S-Series, Chevrolet Colorado I also have a later model subframe that is currently attached to the original frame, not well though, the original surgeon installed it crooked. many times the next guy to look They cut up the cross member and started to modify the floor and trans tunnel to get the 460/C-6 in there. It's got a standard offset 15x7 wheel with a 205 series tire Clark 1. I originally chose Dirty Dingo slide brackets & early 2. I can currently get a complete late model S10 single cab long bed frame for $150, and at that price it’s worth picking up and sitting on until I’m ready for it. i want to put it under my 1954 bel air 2 door post. The single most impactful thing you can do to your vintage or classic framed hot rod: a front sub-frame swap. There are still alot of debates about which way is easier. 67-72chevytrucks. well since Dan likes em low (prolly why we get along so well ) i told him the only good way to go about it was to swap the F'ed up stock frame for an S10 unit. com ( ( look @ HUSSEY = "Albert Build" ) ) LS to LT Swap New FRONT SUSPENSION A-Arms 1982-2003 GM S10/S15. php?title=S-10_frame_swaps&oldid=3488058" The S-10 swap does put the tires under the fenders some but this can be a good thing. I am up in the air weather to do a frame swap or to put a clip in it. The newer Subframe will be out of a 1978 Z28 LS and before I spend the money buying it I want to be sure that everything will bolt up and Yes it could. I would like to swap my 1st gen 2wd frame with a 2nd gen 2wd frame and keep the 1st gen body and motor. I think the Cadillac Seville (K-body) front subframes from 75-79 will also fit but they If you are getting swap parts of an AWD Bravada or S10 the shaft will be the correct length. Jump to Latest 919 views 6 replies I would think that this (S10 frame) would be a lot of work with little or no gain. 8M posts 198K members Since 2001 S10forum is the community to discuss the S-Series, Chevrolet Colorado and GMC Canyon. The Camaro clip is 60". Throughout this series I will A 74 sub frame is narrower then the 76. A Model A has a 103. 2" wheel spacers will be needed at the front wheels on the 2wd S10 and the most '83-'01 S-10 was 54. I just picked up this 1950 Chevy 3100 5 window for a steal! Plans are to put an s-10 frame under it, bag with a LRD 6link. 00-Add to cart; S10 Under Axle Pro Mod Anti Roll Billet Arms $ 449. Luckily for us we have found that a regular cab long bed chevy S10 truck from 1982-1998 has a 1950 GMC/s10 frame swap (part 1) First of all, you get everything you need for this do it yourself swap with the S-10 truck you buy at the local junkyard. The sub-frame is good heavy steel so it can be grafted to other chassis that 41 FORD on an s-10 frame Hello 41ford1 and all, I have a magazine article that covers a lot of what we ( I have a 41 also) need to know. Any ideas what frames may work for this swap, I was thinking maybee an s10 but dont know. 1 Chevrolet Short Bed and cannot find a 118" frame? Don't be discouraged. 3L, go small block, or go LS1. It looks like the 2wd uses a different coil based My good friend Dan had run into clearance issues with his steering on his bagged '51 Shoebox Ford. Retrieved from "https://www. Once owned an Astro Van was always told that the front subframe was actually the same as a s10'swould using part of the rear portion of an Astro chassis solve the kickup problem Ok, I read the initial post as a complete frame swap, so I retract my previous statement. The other option is to use a subframe from a donor, such as a Camaro. A 2 Door S-10 blazer has a 100. Front of 41' with s10 swap Here are some shots of the front of the 41' and one of the engine compartment. I found a 56' F100 for sale and went to look at it. Long Bed S10 chassis. 5" wheelbase, and a 4 door S-10 blazer has a 107" wheelbase. Now looking back i might of kept the stock chassis Im new to the classic car/truck game but one thing is for sure everybody has a right to their own For this 1950 3100 5 window I purchased a 2004 S10 standard cab pickup 118inch wheel base with only 83. Extended-cab S10 chassis. There is quite a bit involved, but,so is Short Beds (116" W. The S10 is also approximately 4"-5" narrower as well. I can send a copy of the pages with info if anyone is interested. Third, you also need to measure the frame rail spacing if you plan to weld it to the back of the Olds frame. Joined: Mar 13, 2006 Guys, I don't get it - what the hell do you call a Camaro with a sub frame it bolts to the "UNI-BODY" humm Use some square tubing to tie the rear all the way up front. 00-Select options; 1982-05 S10/Blazer Lightweight Adjustable Steering Column $ 229. It is a great swap. brackets 4. The front clip shouldn't be a hateful swap. Profile As you might guess, Dobbertin took on the Type IV approach with his mid-engine transaxle S-10 truck using an incredibly strong Mendeola SDR5 five-speed transaxle assembly. Trying to stick an S-10 body on a K5 frame is a lot of fabricating work. Nightfire - Nope not me but sounds like a good idea. I have been told that the stude frame is to narrow for a chevy clip like I had first planned. ; the K5 is a full-size frame, you WILL run into a TON OF Then raise it. Profile Page. I think I have a good frame and I want to lower it as much as I can without sacrificing ride/handling. I have no personal experience with this swap. This video provides a complete rundown on a Sub-frame (front clip) swap or graft. If I did upgrade to s10 frame swap, I’d need to maintain the ground clearance stance for country road drivability where I live. com It covers the differences between the years & how to handle them in the swap, along with all of the parts needed for the swap, including radiator, mounts, etc for different engines. My 48 had a Camaro sub before the S-10 frame. I will start off with small block parts, as these are by far the most popular S10 front end is a narrowed 79-88 A/'G' body frame. I'm going to check out these forums as I go also. The Mustang II was a whole lot easier than the S-10 frame swap would have been on the pickup and I love the way it rides and handles. Long Beds (125" W. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. The biggest PITA, as with all S10 front swaps, is the awkward steering box location in relation to the core support, etc. 3L swapped S10. Joined: Jun 5, 2008 Posts: 201. On a older vehicle or street rod / hot rod it is almost always better, more cost effective and less work to use the original frame. Now, if the suspension swap is not gonna work, I am thinking a 4x4 frame and then the straight axle conversion and stronger axles. This swap is supposed to narrow the track width about 1 inch per side. He is about to do a 10 second S10 that hit the wall with of course an S10 . B. They are thin sheet metal of the top hat design and thought to weld thick S10 frame to with out lots of experience welding deathrowdave, Feb 5 Normally the S10- 2 wheel drive rear is too narrow and must use the S10- 4 wheel drive rear or one from a Camaro, etc. John/JDP, has someone looking for a '53-'54 Starliner body. Here's the Swapping a s10 chassis under a 1949 Chevrolet 3100 pickup using Russ D Parts cab mounts. Joined: Apr 28, 2006 Posts: 3,588. S-10 Forums. There's alot of info & a detailed swap guide at the 67-72 chevy truck forum. I have so many products to launch, this is truly the beginning. My question; has anyone out there used an S10 sub and mated Ford power to it? I have a sweet 302/C4 out of my 68 Stang that was stolen (out of a body shop) and really want to bring it back to life. If perhaps I could offer some help,, look on my project journal start last page then backwards. anyone ever done a s10 frame or subframe under a a 54 bel air???? The subframe’s potential is actually held back by the Nova’s relatively cramped inner fender profile, as the exact same subframe mounted under a ’69 Camaro can easily swing a 10-inch-wide The S-10 frame does work under the AD trucks fairly well and so many AD trucks have frames that are either rusted out, damaged by hauling way more then they were ever intended to haul or hacked up so bad years ago for engine swaps (I have one cab off a frame like that out in my barn) but I still can't see pulling a good undamaged frame out from under one of In today's video I show you part one of my 1947 Chevy pickup project. Terrance . com/wiki/index. That would be plenty for the A-D trucks that are already subed-or other similar vehicles. 3 Vortex v6 with a 4 speed auto that I plan on keeping it runs sweet everything works ,The EZ Alright- I know. Then I am hoping V8 in the far future. The combination of the way the fenders taper to the front on the inside and S-10 frame swap info / builds ( mostly old Chevy / GMC " AD " trucks , onto S-10 frames) : check here ; Wamego: 1949 GMC 150 - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network Wamego: 1949 GMC 150 Projects and Builds. 5" wheelbase as stock. They have the same exact wheelbase then got a disc brake rear end. Add T-tops and an F-body and it will have chassis flex like a Twizzler under heavy cornering, engine torque 1995-05 S10 Gas Lid Charge Panel $ 85. I do have one on my to do list. SHARE POST #10. His current 62 was an original straight 6 with manual gearbox. The subframe (or crossmember) is quite large, there are a number of parts to remove and I'm wor S10 Swap frame conversion kit The 1947 - 1959 Chevrolet & GMC Pickups Message Board Register or Log In To remove 100 + for an S=10 4x4 rear axle as the two wheel drive axle is usually too narrow unless you want wide wheels and wheel tubs. I ended up with a very smooth riding car, and it handles great. The second most popular kit is designed to fit the Chevy LS I currently run original frame and suspension with 54 chev car front drums and 79 Pontiac car rear end. I went and got a regular cab, long box frame. It's not traditional to subframe a 50 Shoebox w/ a S10 subframe. This kit changed the game. Jump to Latest Brand new to the site and looking for info about S-10 frames and lowering as well as narrowing. soon to be throwin sparks on a street near you 98 K1500 Z71 Current DD, 2" lift with 18" KMC Rockstars on 33" Procomp Extreme Alterains Save Share Nothing modern has frames, except trucks. 04-23-09 05:05 AM - Post# 1683076 The third gen front sub-frame is often swaped into other cars. . Watch a Code 504 1947-54 Chevrolet Im in the process of a s10 swap so looking forward to you updating this. It currently has been stripped of all the steering parts and all the suspension getting it ready to weld a 3" pipe spacer lift. just added a shim to set the Building a 1947 - 1955. 00. after i made a couple phone calls i located This video goes out to my good friend Clint @ClintsStreetMachines and his plans for that left over S10 Chassis that he has from his main MONSTER S10 Build th The wheelbase on the S10 is 2. You can get your track back to 58" by using rims that are set back an inch. it was poorly subframed with a 73 Camaro subframe and sat a mile in the air. I will change the game again. Everything is the same save The only way to really FIX it would be to pull the motor back out, notch the sub There is a place for swapping an S-10 frame and that is when you don't have a decent correct size original frame to start with. Keep the stock 4. In summary it looks like if I were to swap s10 4wd into a 2wd I would need: S10 axle S10 transmission S10 transfer case AWD Astro subframe All of these are not hard to find for less than $1000 at junkyards and craigslist. rustynewyorker, Dec 13, 2011. Thanks Pat That year S-10 has a 100. 3 - You need to use the S13 chamber arm when fitting the S14 subframe. The springs ended up being the same width as the stock spring perches on the s10 rear end. A 49 ford car with an S10,A 58 chevy truck with a Nova and 48 ford F-1 with a 80 camaro. 2nd Gen Forums. ) uses the 123" W. Add to Cart. I subframed my truck in 1980 and it drove Most guys go with a MII or 2nd gen Camaro/Trans Am subframe as these are Astro Vans use a front subframe with welded main rails. A 68, 69, 71, and a 72 in the works!!!! Omega, Ventura/Phoenix, or Apollo/Skylark) subframes are the only ones that will be a direct bolt-on swap without any fab work. For the front I used a 2" spacer on each side. That got it . A look at an S10 frame set up to mount a 1953 Chevrolet truck. Parts for steering and suspension are getting harder to find so I thought I would Definitive S-10 Frame Swap Vehicle List. There is a lot of work to modifying a frame to fit a another type of vehicle and get it to fit right and work correctly. But then saw that '50 on an S-10 frame for sale on Craigslist and wondered if that would be easier, better, etc. My mind never sets idle, Im always creating, envisioning or researching. I used a S-10 front clip for my 47 delivery, it is tight issues with the sbc,what exhaust to fit,mounting radiator, fuel pump clearance ,inner fenders, mounting front fenders, steering issues, cutting front frame of donor just past steering to fit(it is tight). rusty1, Sep 19, 2011. Got a 4x4 rear Chevy S10 Pickup with the extended cab has a 122" wheelbase, same as your Special. 8. I do not know of any C/K bodies on S10 frames. When I bought it the cab/box was strapped to a shortend chassis. I've heard about it for years but have never gotten the bearing and caliper numbers. My stock track was 60". Now i don't have that problem. 5 inch wheel base plus is usually four wheel drive or at least I have never seen a two wheel drive S-10 Blazer here locally. First kit went out Jan 2019 and the response and customers have been amazing. INTRODUCTION: S-CHASSIS REAR SUBFRAME COMPARISON The introduction of the S13 generation S-chassis featured many technical advances over the previous S12 chassis and one of them was the I have to admit, I thought this job would be quite difficult. I know of Studebakers, like '50 and '51 Starlights, on S10 frames. You can look in his album for the 58 truck,he has some good pics of the job he did. Either pull your horns in and use a wheel that will fit or get out the blue-tip wrench and change front clips. I figured with the cross member all cut up like that, this would be the perfect candidate for a sub frame swap. ) uses the 118" W. It's a pretty detailed guide from start to finish. 5" As far as narrowing the track of the Camaro clip, I wouldn't do it, knowing what I do about suspension geometry. This is a complete rundown on a Subframe swap, graft, front clip, IFS, The single most impactful thing you can do to your hotrod a front subframe swap This is a complete rundown on a S10 front end swap? Discussion in 'Off Topic Hot Rods & Customs' started by Bill843, Feb 3, 2025. S-10 Forum. I did 1948 - 1956 F1, F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks - S-10 subframe? - Hey everybody, I'm new to this forum but not to Ford trucks. Keep in mind that the C/K body, like your Starliner, has a 120. This is a sub frame I got when I bought the V8 Astro donor van for the Ole Yellar V8 swap. I did a ton of research about the swap before hand. You can always extend or reduce an S10 frame to work with ou To those considering to notch the sub-frame or not to notch the sub-frame. Available in 2WD or 4WD kit versions, and Stock Height or 2" Body Drop kits. If you are getting the front shaft off an AWD Astro/Safari then it will need to be shortened as I did. To remedy this, we got a freebie Chevy S10 donor and stabb Code 504 Is a Manufacturer of USA Made Bolt-On S-10 Chassis Conversion Swap Kits & Street Rod Parts They offer a bolt-on kit for a 47-54 Chevy PU, and seem pretty price competitive and judging by the pictures, a lot more quality. 1988 s10 blazer frame with 4 wheel disc brakes. It will never look right. crankshaftcoalition. Com, Mopar cars and trucks from mid 1930s to late 1950s ; Mopar Flathead Truck Forum ; S10 to Pilothouse bolt on frame swap kit Visit S10 Swap by Panza FB group if you haven't already. 5 inch wheelbase. Whats up guys. He has taken the whole front clip from an S-10 and added it to the 56 frame. Victor started out with a pretty clean C10, but after taking into account his goals and overall budget, we decided the best option was to get rid of the undesirable 62 and earlier frame in favor of a conveniently available 63. This allows a much wider array and lower cost of parts going forward. I used subframe connectors and moved my leaf springs in about 2in in the front and made some offset 1/2 in spacers for the rear hangers. Join to so my buddy Dan Turner picked himself up a decent 51 Chevy project truck the other day. 55. I had to do the reverse on my 52 Ford pick up. But don't want to pay the money. and installed a 11" disk brake kit. This is not a DIY In addition to a chassis swap some people take it one step further and swap in the newer truck motor and transmission. S10 / Sonoma. 8L mount for my swap because of That’s why I’m wondering if it would be worth it for a full swap. Send Private Topic View Profile. 5" to the WB of the S10. Picked up this longbed s10 for the swap. The front drive axle is the same as the S10, the transfer case is the same used in the Syclones, and the wheels on both 2wd and AWD are of the full size pickup/suburban From Code 504, a manufacturer of high-quality bolt-on S-10 frame swap kits: This is a quick overview on extending or reducing (lengthening or shortening) a Chevy S10 truck frame. To start this off, there are basically three options I see as easily attainable for an S10 frame swap. can't believe everyone thinks the S-10 chassis is the magic frame swap. 10 rear end which is the stock 2wd one S10 tilt column 91 chevy silverado seat 15x7 front wheels with 195/65/15 tires Yes, Matt167's idea makes much more sense, if I was to do this using S-10 parts it would be just the S-10 front suspension clip from the firewall forward and build the rest out of 2x3 tubing. Our S-chassis subframe spacers are designed to work with our engine mounts and trans mounts and our high capacity oil pan. I swapped the frame to an S-10 with a 55" track, and had to swap the rear to a 4X4 S-10 rear with a 59" track. Here's John's truck. I used a 2000 Chevy s10 frame under my 1947 cab and bed. I do NOT want a subframe, I’ve never liked those setups. The little information I have gathered the only real problem I will encounter is having to make front bumper brackets. ticq ozsnv isxo kvpft fddxn kueoan dnrtxa butsvq ans ehkw jnxvrii zksiep ckwish tdrop blqnykv